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end of chapter linking

I made a basic link box for linking between chapters on my Job One page - what do people think about using something like it as a standard?

Previous Book Previous Chapter This Book Next Chapter Next Book
Book of Whatever This Four Book of This This Six Book of The Next Thing

--Joaquin67 14:16, 30 July 2007 (EDT)


Great idea. Beats the hell out of my crappy internal links. I'm going to start replacing my links with this but I don't know how we are supposed to give you credit for this. I will steal some ideas... I mean get some inspiration from Wikipedia. Also, I can assume the majority of these guidelines were meant for me. I will work on it :P --Jesus 20:45, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

Above bottom bar

Hrm. not too sure about "Previous Book" or "Next Book". I do like the previous chapter, this book/next chapter though. Perhaps at the bottom of that we can have "Book List" or something. not sure.




I created something like that but I need you to make me a Template:Old Testament page before I can continue work--Jesus 11:17, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

Chapter Headings

I like it when the bible has bold headings to divide up long passages so you know a summary of whats there, like ADAM AND EVE ARE CREATED or GOD FLOODS THE EARTH stuff like that. Bboyneko 14:07, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

Anyone know how to do this without breaking the list numbering? Cattus petasatus 15:33, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

Changing Names

Ack, I changed pretty much all the names in Matthew 1. Lots of names. Ack.Ifreann 18:56, 25 August 2007 (EDT)


Spelling

I (Landei) like the different styles, but shouldn't we at least use the same spellings for some common words like cheezburgr, cookiez, kinkz, teh, sed, doodz, usual abbreviationz (upper or lowercase) n stuff, just as a common base? So I'd suggest short a word list. What do you think?

--- Yeah, I was thinking this. I'll make a new page for spelling guidelines. We'll discuss things there. --Zotnix 23:26, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

--- Isn't it generally accepted that it is spelled "kittahs" and not "kittehs"? I've seen a few instances of kittehs here, but I've always seen it as "kittahs" --Busydoingnothing 20:37, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

Nah, the inconsistency is part of the fun! I think it's an integral part of lolspeak (1337sp33k too). I'm doing it on purpose. Personally I prefer "kittehs" to "kittahs." Cute Overload (which is where I came from) always spells it "kittehs." Wotthe7734 00:42, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Bold numbered list

If an admin could edit the CSS files or whatever so that numbered lists were always bold, it would probably make some stuff a bit easier. --Superiority 00:35, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

Looks like this has been done. May Ceiling Cat give you cheezburgr! Cattus petasatus 11:03, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
How do we link to specific verses? Like Id love to post links on websites to a specific lolcat bible chapter and verse. Right now ALl i see is linking to chapter? Bboyneko 15:34, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

Numbered lists are a problem with the bible, cus what if someone wants to only translate verse 1-5, then verse 23, then verse 24 etc.? A numbered list would show these translated verses as 1-7 instead of what they actually are. Also numbered lists seem to break if we divide up chapters with headings as mentioned before by cattus. Is there a solution? Should we revert to manually numbering the verses? Bboyneko 16:54, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

In that case simply manually number the oddball verses being translating. Keep the first five with the #'s, and then just add the other numbers manually with a space. --Zotnix 19:50, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

God's name

Why did it change? Invisible man was way more descriptive.

Cus ceiling cat is funnier Bboyneko 13:12, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm beginning to lean more towards Invisible Man. Sort of like cats have a "master" human, lolcats have a "godlike" human. The man who provides the canned food. The one they look up to for pets. I'll try and set up a vote for that. --Zotnix 14:03, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
Admittedly, it's easier to photoshop Ceiling Cat than it is an Invisible Man. Cattus petasatus 15:34, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

Other names

Can we has some specific name aliases? Moses could be Monorail Cat, David could be LOLrus. etc... But we'd need a proper agreed list?

--- Real names are better - less confusing, & the whole thing is funnier if you don't have to stop every 5 minutes & say "wtf? gon 2 raed dixionery, brb." kthxbai Wotthe7734 00:46, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

LOLCat "in jokes"

Standard LOLCat-isms should also be defined and used consistently throughout. As explained elsewhere, "Ceiling Cat" is God. Because "can has cheezburgr" is so standard, that should have a definitive meaning (I propose that it pertain to salvation, eternal life and going to heaven.) But there should be a specific meaning for that, as well as for "Iz in ur." --Reimero 13:43, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

LOLCat pidgin ONLY? no l33t sp33k right?

I don't like the use of l33t words like 'n00b' etc. I think this should be a kitty pidgin bible only. Bboyneko 13:12, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

I think some 1337sp33k words like "n00b" have become so common they're almost impossible to avoid, & since they show up a lot on lolcats, it really won't hurt to have a few of them here & there.

A lot of what I've read so far really doesn't read like lolspeak at all anyway. It sounds like a crew of gangstaz wrote it. The real problem IMO is that some people are writing things like "pimp" & "ho" & "nigga" & "bitch," which are offensive to many people (me for one, sorry) & aren't necessary.

When the regular Bible refers to "whoremongers" etc. it's specifically talking about "wikkid evil ppl whos been raedin wikkidpedia & sez 'i can has a money 4 PENIS GOES WHERE???!!!! & how kewl is taht?' & Ceiling Cat sez DO NOT WANT!!!!!!!! & dey r can goes 2 Hel & gets burnd up 4evr & not brb if htey duznt stopz it." Better to leave "pimps & hos" as a very specific (& rare) usage.

"Nigga" & "bitch" are right out. DO NOT WANT!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!! Same goes for any racist/ethnic/religious/sexist stuff.

The Cute Overload crowd will be reading this too, & they'll be looking for "teh cute" & not the gangstaz, so we really need to keep it on the clean side. Besides, it turns out a lot funnier 'cuz it forces you to be more creative.

Irreverence is one thing (& I'm all for it, it's good for the soul ---grin---). Flat-out offensiveness is another, especially if you're joking about religion.

Hmmmmmmmmm........... maybe I should go back and edit out all the wtfs & stfus I put in. It's only fair........

jus 2 moneys wrth form a oldfart momcat who iz haz trubl ritin regler rite nao cuz i wuz in ur genises ritin liek 12 chaptrz in teh last 4 daze. kthxbai. Wotthe7734 00:16, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Gonna do some top down decisions here:
  • n00b is okay. l33t isn't.
  • bitchs/niggaz not okay
  • wtf/stfu are common in lolcats, should stay.
  • keeping it somewhat clean does help with funnier translating. It forces you to think of writing things in non conventional ways. However, I wouldn't go overboard on being all the way clean. The Bible isn't very clean, objectively speaking.
  • please remember to sign your blocks. No clue who wrote any of this. And use colons to indent.

--Zotnix 00:47, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

A useful text source

I have a [[1][searchable online Bible]] with about three different translations which might be useful for looking up texts. More flexible search options than a lot of online Bibles. (And if this ever gets completed, including apocrypha, I totally want to add it.) It's also the first online Bible I know of to link back to lolcatbible.


I have a favorite online bible I like to use: [[2]] has MANY translations. Also I like using this online lolcat talk translator: [[3]] The only bad thing about this translator is it generates ALL CAPS. So what i do is I cut and paste the text into WORD, then go to FORMAT > CHANGE CASE and select SENTENCE CASE which converts the all caps into normal sentences.

I suggest we post links to these two online bibles in the guidelines page or home page, and then also link to the lolcat translator so people can help us out faster. Bboyneko 13:16, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm cutting & pasting from an online KJV at http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv//browse.html (sry i iz wiki n00b & dont knos how 2 fixs taht linkx liek u d00ds did. wil lookz it up l8r & do it rite nxt tiem k?) No all-caps. I'm editing it in Bean (open-source word processing app, b-ll g-t-s is teh EVIL!!!!!!!!!) & it seems to be working OK. Wotthe7734 00:29, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Common Memes in the LOLCatBible

Here are some suggestions for names of God not yet specified:

  • The Lord == Top Cat
  • Jesus == JesusCat
  • The Holy Spirit == HoverCat

Thus, the Trinity is Ceiling Cat / Top Cat, JesusCat, and HoverCat. --

The trinity doesn't matter, the word and exact concept is never mentioned in the bible. Its more of a catholic thing like hail marys Bboyneko 14:09, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
In view of door cat subbing for ceiling cat, I wondered if Jesus == DoorCat? -- Flooof 13:53, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
Haha, I also kind'a like the idea, but I think that it's too obscure to really use. It has to retain some sort of connection to the actual story, or else it's just too difficult to understand, and actually loses some of the humor. Names are generally kept the same, and Jesus' name is actually used, whereas God is really an unnamed entity. anshkakashi 13:59, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

Hey, the inconsistency is part of the fun! (That includes inconsistent spelling, which I'm doing on purpose.) Besides, it won't take long for anyone who's even vaguely familiar with lolspeak to figure out what you're talking about. But I agree with anshkakashi, Doorcat doesn't really do it. I'd go with Jesuscat. I wouldn't have thought of Hovercat, but I like it! Wotthe7734 00:36, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

How do you automatically sign your Edits?

Apparently, Reimero and Superiority (above) know how to do it! Tell us all!! -kthxbai

Just put four tildes at the end of your post. This is a tilde:~ Cattus petasatus 06:38, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
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